They want $24,139 for that Corolla I SEENT yesterday.

"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck)
08/29/2018 at 10:30 • Filed to: Corolla

I think it’s arguably a good value when you consider how little 24k gets you these days for new cars, but will these sell?

Also, a critique: this car looks WAY nicer in person than in this listing. The photos are oversaturated and don’t do the paint justice. But moving on...

A rather bizzare combo: this white leatherette interior with this sort of burnt crimson paint. I don’t remember the interior looking like a neutron star, see my critique above.

It is effectively fully loaded: the bells and whistles are there . I read that there is an option for full leather interior on the XSE , but until I see one I cannot confirm.

Let’s give Toyota credit for throwing the manual option on their top trim instead of offering it only on their base model for the Corolla hatchback.

If these move units, I’m hoping Toyota will be incentivized to experiment with them more... Like offering more than 140-something HP at some point. They have a turbo 4-banger lying around from Lexus... Hell, there’s an old Scion tC motor that made 180HP.

Anyway. I think I'm actually going to test drive one of these. I want Toyota to succeed, but if I come away still thinking that my 16 year-old Paseo is more enjoyable, it will be a disappointent.

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DISCUSSION (40)

Wacko > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 10:34

that is alot of coin for an ugly face and rear like that.

but I like the looks from the side.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Wacko
08/29/2018 at 10:37

No u

interstate366, now In The Industry > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 10:38

24k gets you a Civic Si.

MonkeePuzzle > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 10:38

corolla is kind of a starter family car right? likelihood of small children is high

Kinja'd!!!

what were they thinking?

Under_Score > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 10:44

I looked at and filmed an SE model on Saturday. The rear door cupholders are so cute!

Aremmes > Wacko
08/29/2018 at 10:45

Counterpoint: it still looks a lot better than the current Camry. Plus stick shift.

Wacko > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 10:48

Kinja'd!!!

Wacko > Aremmes
08/29/2018 at 10:50

I’ve been saying it for a while, Toyota and Honda are both in social experiment phase.

How ugly can we build a car before people stop buying them. So far it’s up to very fucking ugly.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 10:51

There’s a Corolla SE in my driveway at the moment, in Galactic Aqua Mica . It’s the green-that’s-actually-blue-wait-no-black-wait-no-green. Toyota really hit it out of the park with the paint on these.

The rest of the car didn’t show up to the park at all.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 11:02

I kind of love that interior, not gonna lie.

I’ve also heard that the manual is supposed to be more enthusiast-oriented. Want to do a test drive and give us an Oppo review?

fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 11:06

Nice directional wheels

Says Honda

It’ll be interesting to see if manual helps or greatly harms resale.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > MonkeePuzzle
08/29/2018 at 11:25

I thought the Corolla was more of the early to mid 20s car, used as basic transportation before kids enter the picture. Your point still stands that a white interior is a horrible idea for the demographic.

Aremmes > Wacko
08/29/2018 at 11:29

People have bought Monte Carlos, Bangle-butts, W210s, Accord Crosstours, and Azteks. There really exists no limit.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
08/29/2018 at 11:29

Sad!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/29/2018 at 11:30

Dissenting opinion gets you my wrath

MonkeePuzzle > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
08/29/2018 at 11:31

ahh, of course. allow me to correct

Kinja'd!!!

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 11:32

I like it... but it’s a lot of coin. But I believe that’s what well optioned versions of these go for.

Consider as well that the base Corolla hatchback starts at just under US$20,000 and the XSE starts at just under $23,000.

I just checked Toyota’s website. The 2L engine in these now have 168HP... not bad.

And I went through the build process and the $24,139 price on the website is the exact same price this dealer is charging. So the price is neither good nor bad... it’s merely the MSRP.

Tapas > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 11:39

$24k gets you an okay E39 M5 AND a 2003 Corolla (Since you like them so much).

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 11:39

24k gets you a Civic Si.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/29/2018 at 11:40

Civic Si is at the top of my next car list. I just need to find one to take for a spin. Our local honda dealers are full of Civic EX models and a few sports but no Si’s.

Sovande > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 11:43

That’s an okay color on one horrendous looking car.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
08/29/2018 at 11:46

I looked at them before I bought the TL since they’re in my budget. If it had been easier to find a sedan in a color I wanted I might have ended up with one.

MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 11:46

My 13-year-old Matrix XRS has 15 more horsepower, way more space inside, VVTL-i that kicks in at the rpm this car redlines, and cost me less than 1/3 of one of these. Just saying.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 11:57

That 2.0L turbo from the GS300 I drove would be amazing in that Corolla .

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 13:05

I couldn’t be paid $24k to drive something so hideous!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
08/29/2018 at 13:24

Are you sure?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 13:29

Give me a manual Civic over that. My dad will shoot me for driving a Japanese branded car (not really lol), but at least I’ll be shot driving something comparatively better looking.

boxrocket > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 13:39

Why would I want that ugly mug (and has Toyota figured out how to make an interior screen that doesn’t wash out with the slightest hint of sunlight?)? I can get a Mazda3 hatch instead and be much happier. Or if I have to stay with Toyota, I can get a Yaris iA. Or a Corolla Hatch, I suppose, if pressed.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
08/29/2018 at 15:02

Civic Si seems to be more car for the money.

Textured Soy Protein > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 15:05

I know the Corolla hatch is sorta kinda appreciated in car enthusiast circles for being decent looking and a hatchback. And yeah it’s on a new platform unlike the Corolla sedan which is on the same platform as the 2006 Corolla. But it’s hard for me to get excited about it compared to the Civic or 3. It does get a couple more mpg than the already very thrifty Civic though.

Kinja'd!!!

Svart Smart, traded in his Smart > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 15:32

Personally, I think the Elantra GT looks much more handsome... A nd it offers a manual transmission in Base (2.0) and Sport (1.6T, 201 hp) models.

BadMotorScooter > interstate366, now In The Industry
08/29/2018 at 15:56

24k gets you a RWD , 335HP, manual, Eagle supercar wearing, screaming dual-mode exhausting, bitchin V6 1LE Camaro! Seems a bit more interesting than a Toyota econobox...

https://www.carmax.com/car/16486079?intcmp=COPS_RC_Carpage_16486079

MUGENJIBZ > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 16:14

mmmm...manual

promoted by the color red > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 16:47

Only ~ $100 less than what I paid pre-tax for a Miata. Probably would have bought one if my situation were different.

Lilkingofthe666 > Svart Smart, traded in his Smart
08/29/2018 at 16:50

Also, it's a DCT instead of Toyota's CVT

interstate366, now In The Industry > BadMotorScooter
08/29/2018 at 18:15

20k got me a fully loaded, torque vectoring AWD, 305 HP, Pilot Sport wearing, grumbly exhaust sounding, super comfortable TL. Though I didn’t get a manual (wasn’t looking for one and the trim package I wanted didn’t come with it anyway)

bhtooefr > Textured Soy Protein
08/29/2018 at 18:28

I mean, a 40% thermally efficient engine (with good part-throttle efficiency, too) will do that for you, it’s basically in diesel thermal efficiency territory... and EPA MPG is better than an Emissions Modified 2015 Golf TDI (at least for DSG, as you posted the CVT Corolla) , despite 13% less energy per gallon of fuel.

wafflesnfalafel > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
08/29/2018 at 20:43

that’s kinda pricey... you can get a comparable Mazda3 for several grand less...

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > wafflesnfalafel
08/29/2018 at 21:15

Get out of here with your facts

Svart Smart, traded in his Smart > Lilkingofthe666
08/29/2018 at 21:38

With the 1.6 turbo, yes.